Re: [MATHEDCC] Retention

Bret Taylor (bret@IAG.NET)
Wed, 16 Apr 1997 19:15:24 -0400 (EDT)

At 10:16 AM 4/16/97 -0600, you wrote:
>Bret,
>
>I think another important question is "What is the success rate for the 61%
>who are successful in 0024 when they take the college algebra course which
>is, I assume, what the first two courses (developmental) are for. IMHO a
>61% success rate is very high and would be exemplary if it also leads to a
>high success rate in college algegra (or equivalent). In explaining to the
>Dean of students why our success rate was only about 45% in a combined
>Beg/Interm course I had to show that students who succeeded in that course
>did better than the general population in college algebra. I also had to
>explain that, despite those constraints, we were making every effort to
>have more successful students. Judging by a previous message on this list,
>there would be little or no point in instituting an attendance policy which
>had been suggested. Hence the value of this list.
>
>wayne
>
>Wayne F. Mackey
>Univ. of Arkansas
>SCEN #301
>Fayetteville, AR 72701
>wmackey@comp.uark.edu
>http://comp.uark.edu/~wmackey

Wayne,

Thanks for your comments. Our developmental math has been taught more and
more in recent years by adjuncts. Coincidentally, the math faculty has been
given less and less input and supervisory authority over these adjuncts. We
are trying to get info so we can compare three groups of students in our
Algebra (first college credit course) 1) those who place into it 2) those
who were taught dev math by adjuncts and 3) those who were taught dev math
by full-time. So far, we are unsuccessful in getting this data.
(Anecdotally, my Algebra has about a 40-45% success rate. I am trying to
get the data from my classes to compare success rates of those who placed
into it with those who passed dev math. Once again, no luck so far.)

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Bret Taylor Lake-Sumter Community College Leesburg FL

"It matters not the subject taught, nor all the books on all the shelves.
What matters more, yes most of all, is what the teachers are themselves."
John Wooden

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