Re: what should we change???!!!

John M. Flanigan (johnf@HAWAII.EDU)
Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:06:16 -1000

. . . So what do you think will be the effect of Clinton's effort to
guarantee at least two years of college to _everyone_ and to reward
students with grants who maintain a B average? More math/science avoidance
and fewer skilled artisans?

Why can't this society show equal value for skilled workers as for skilled
thinkers?!

John M. Flanigan <johnf@hawaii.edu> The equation is the final arbiter.
Math Resource Instructor --Werner Heisenberg
Kapi'olani Community College The scoreboard is the final arbiter.
Honolulu, Hawaii --Bill Walton

On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, KC and Patrick Hillard wrote:

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> > The question is, what should we change and how should we change it?
> >
> > Gary Helmer
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> > Lets start by assuming that 1/2 the kids I see in 6th grade are hands
> on not paper pencil kind of people and lets face the fact that we are
> facing a real shortage in skilled trades men like good plumbers
> (my plumber is over 75 but he can fix my 30 year old boiler in my 90
> year old house when he dies......)
> I am not sure there is anyone left in this state who can lay an arch of
> stones over a hearth. I shudder at some of the shoddy electrical
> work...
> and and and
> We need to re think the kind of curriculum we are pushing and get away
> from the need to shove 80-90% of our kids into college.
> Somedays I wish I had taken up building trades
> Good wood workers are a dying breed.... t starts with being able to
> read a ruler and if you want a real scare ask any group of 8th graders
> to measure 2 and 3/8s inches......
> There is no reason why and apprenticeship program for the manually
> gifted should not be put in place starting at 6th grade and let these
> kids graduate with a skill and a means to make a good living.
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> What should we change???
>
> Everything!
> KC Hillard
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