Re: [MATHEDCC] Just a question.

Martha Haehl (haehl@KCMETRO.CC.MO.US)
Wed, 18 Nov 1998 19:02:55 -0500

On that line, we have a some faculty (fortunately not the majority) who seem
to be very put out to stay around for office hours, give the same tests they
have for 20 to 30 years, do not have time to do any work-related activity
outside of class except object to someone else's ideas.

Our students are a different clientel than when I taught my first class in
1967. "Chalk and talk" as one keynoter at AMATYC put it, is probably not
as effective as it was in 1967. I do not know the solution to the apathetic
teacher or student, but I always keep in mind Einstein' definition of
insanity as "doing things the way we always have and expecting different
results." Surely teachers, being among the most educated of society, can
help find the solutions to tough questions.

One more comment--I always have to keep harping on curriculum. An outdated,
irrelevant curriculum is hard to sell even to motivated students.

Martha

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Laughbaum <elaughba@MATH.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
To: mathedcc@archives.math.utk.edu <mathedcc@archives.math.utk.edu>
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [MATHEDCC] Just a question.

>The issue of students with no desire to learn, do homework, etc. is not
>just a student problem. The office staff here takes no initiative, will not
>volunteer to do anything, must be asked to do normal tasks, and mostly does
>inferior quality work. They are primarily interested in missing a day,
>reading the paper during office hours, surfing the net during office hours,
>and socializing with other staff members during work hours.
>
>Life is tough.
>
>Ed
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